【键盘侠】灰熊听取小加&康利交易报价|一个时代的结束

[Wojnarowski] For first time, Memphis will begin listening to trade offers on franchise stars Marc Gasol and Mike Conley, league sources tell ESPN. Memphis has reached a crossroads and is preparing to weigh deals involving one or both of its cornerstone veterans. Story soon on ESPN.

据NBA名记Woj报道，联盟消息人士透露，灰熊首次听取关于球队内外核心——小加索尔&康利的交易报价。孟菲斯（灰熊）已经走到了十字路口，正准备从现在到交易截止日、甚至是休赛期，权衡一名或两名基石型老将的交易价值。

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[–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 697 points 3 hours ago

End of an era

猛龙球迷：一个时代的结束

[–][NYK] Nate Robinson TheKnicksHateMe 474 points 4 hours ago

As someone who lived in Memphis for a long time, this makes me so sad.

Both of those dudes deserve to be immortalized outside of the Forum forever.

They saved basketball in Grind City.

尼克斯球迷：作为一个曾在孟菲斯住过很长一段时间的人，这个消息让我很难过。

这两个人都应该被灰熊球迷永远铭记。

他们拯救了磨砺之城的篮球。

[–]Grizzlies ComanderArc 245 points 3 hours ago

End of the GnG era. It was beautiful, ladies and gentlemen. We will look back in a few years, and this golden age of the Grizzs, and remember when having a great D was important for many things, even for basketball.

PS: Better retire their numbers.

灰熊球迷：黑又硬时代的结束。伙计们，那段时期非常美妙啊。我们几年后会再回首那段岁月的，这是灰熊的黄金时代，到时候我们就会记得强硬的防守在很多领域是非常重要的，甚至是篮球界。

PS：最好把他们的球衣退役了。

[–]Grizzlies steelerstl 355 points 3 hours ago*

After 7 straight playoff appearances, a trip to the WCF, and consistent success year in and year out for the first time in franchise history, the Grit and Grind era is over. Mike and Marc’s jerseys will hang with Zach and Tony’s one day. The core four will always be remembered for their heart and putting Memphis on the map. What a sad day.

灰熊球迷：经历了连续7个赛季挺进季后赛、一次西决，球队史上首次持续这么多年的成功之后，磨砺与绞杀时代结束了。总有一天，小加索尔和康利的球衣会挂上联邦快递球馆的上空，还有兰多夫和托尼-阿伦的球衣。这个核心四人组曾为球队全心投入，塑造了孟菲斯的篮球品性，他们将一直被人铭记。多么悲伤的一天啊。

[–]Wizards livefreeordont 60 points 3 hours ago

You think 2018 was grit n grind even without ZBo and Allen?

奇才球迷：在没了兰胖和托尼-阿伦之后，你觉得2018年的灰熊还是黑又硬吗？

[–][OKC] Eric Maynor Ibaka_flocka 798 points 3 hours ago

Conley and Gasol may have been the best players, but the Grit n Grind era really ended when tony Allen and zbo left

雷霆球迷：康利和小加索尔或许是灰熊最好的球员，可是随着当初阿伦和兰多夫的离去，黑又硬时代其实就已经结束了。

[–]Grizzlies steelerstl 58 points 3 hours ago

Was an attempt. If you look at who we signed and drafted we were definitely going against the grain. I think this year showed that while Mike & Marc were part of the core 4/grit grind, TA & Zach were on another level. As you would expect

灰熊球迷：还是有点影子的。如果你看看我们引进的和选中的球员，就会发现我们绝对是逆潮流而行的。不过正如你所料，我觉得这个赛季我们的表现说明了，虽说康利和小加是当年核心4人组的一部分，可是阿伦和兰多夫才是另一个层面的。

[–]Rockets turtlechef 34 points 2 hours ago

You guys were a bitch to play against during the era. While I won't miss Houston getting bodied by y'all, I always respected the Grizzlies' identity. Hope you guys can rebuild well

火箭球迷：在黑又硬时代，你们灰熊真是难缠得一匹。虽说我不会怀念窝火当年被你们磨掉一层皮的日子，可我会一直尊重灰熊的篮球ID。希望你们重建顺利。

[–]Grizzlies 37sms 150 points 3 hours ago

It hurts man.

People talking about JJJ, and while we love his potential and what we've seen so far, i have no reason to believe we'll ever get another marc that was as good as he was and cared about the city and franchise the way he did.

And nothing here really matters until the front office is cleaned out, otherwise this franchise will continue its plummet into irrelevance regardless of what young core is here.

灰熊球迷：太难过了。

大家都在说小贾伦-杰克逊，我们也确实喜欢他的天赋和他到现在为止的表现，可是我还是没有任何理由去相信，我们还会得到一个像小加一样优秀、一样在乎这座城市和这支球队的球员。

而且，这一切操作其实都无关紧要，除非管理层换血。不然的话，无论我们的年轻核心多有能耐，这支灰熊依然会走向末路。

[–]Knicks ieatass123 28 points 6 hours ago

Fiz is that you?

尼克斯球迷：你是菲兹戴尔吗？

[–][NYK] Nate Robinson TheKnicksHateMe 81 points 3 hours ago

People outside of Memphis don't get it. I didn't understand it until I lived there. Conley and Gasol are as beloved in Memphis as any superstar has ever been in any other city.

If Gay was healthy in 2011 they would've won the title.

尼克斯球迷：孟菲斯之外的人不会理解这里的人对小加索尔和康利的情感。我也是在这里住过一段时间才明白的。康利和小加索尔在孟菲斯得到的喜爱不比其他任何城市的任何巨星差。

如果2011年盖伊能够保持健康，那他们应该赢得了总冠军。

[–]Lakers BlakeGarrison62 69 points 4 hours ago

Yeah but I’m happy we finally may get to see Mike Conley on a good team again. Dude deserves every bit of praise he gets. Maybe will even be an all star next year if he goes to the east

湖人球迷：是啊，不过我很高兴的是，咱们终于能够再次看到康利在一支强队表现自己了。这哥们儿配得上他所得到的每一点赞誉。如果他去东部的话，或许他会在下赛季进入全明星。

[–]Spurs diabolical-sun 27 points 3 hours ago

I’d love it if Conley could find his way to Milwaukee. Conley for Bledsoe, Snell, a young guy the Grizz might be interested in (excluding Brogdon) and protected picks.

马刺球迷：如果康利去了密尔沃基我会很高兴的。用康利换来布莱德索、托尼-斯内尔，再加个灰熊或许会很感兴趣的年轻人（布罗格登排除在外）和受保护的选秀签。

[–]wrowsey1 16 points 3 hours ago

Grizz would probably take that.

灰熊还真可能愿意。

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[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Dongsquad420BlazeIt 208 points 3 hours ago

Man, I hope Conley ends up somewhere he can really shine and make an All Star.

科比球迷：天呐，我希望康利能去到一个能够真正表现自己并且进入全明星的地方。

[–]itsamediocrelife 1271 points 4 hours ago

Mike Conley would look good in a Pacers uniform

康利穿着步行者球衣应该很不错

[–]Kings willin_dylan 435 points 3 hours ago

Perfect fit honestly

国王球迷：说实话，那简直完美。

[–]Raptors EustassKiddd 32 points 4 hours ago

East would be REALLY interesting

猛龙球迷：那东部就真有意思咯

[–]Lakers hideshimori__ 39 points 3 hours ago

For me the contract isn’t a deterrent with Conley. He’s one of the top 7 point guards in the league. Only concern is health

湖人球迷：我觉得康利的合同不是问题。他是联盟前七控卫，只是伤病有点麻烦。

[–]Grizzlies jbrooks772 29 points 3 hours ago

His contract isn't really that bad considering he only has two years left after this one, and the cap has continued growing. Unless he really falls off next season, he's worth the money.

灰熊球迷：他的大合同真没那么麻烦，毕竟这个赛季过后只有两个赛季了，而且球队的薪资空间还在涨。除非他下赛季真的下滑了，不然他还是值那么多钱的。

[–]Pacers KazumaKuwabara 150 points 4 hours ago*

We’ll give them one Darren Collison, and a lightly used TJ Leaf.

Edit: Add in Tyreke Evans for the salary

步行者球迷：我们可以给灰熊达伦-科里森和没怎么用过的TJ-利夫。

编辑：为了匹配薪资，还可以加上泰瑞克-埃文斯。

[–]dankKUSHner 73 points 3 hours ago

They should do

Conley 30 mil

For

Collison 10 mil

Leaf 2.4

Evans 12

Protected first (lottery)

他们或许会这么做：

用三千万的康利换一千万的科里森加240万的利夫加一千二百万的埃文斯，再搭一个受保护的首轮签（乐透）。

[–]Pacers MithIllogical 44 points 2 hours ago

That's the one.

步行者球迷：就是这个操作。

[–]Bulls cobrakaistrikefree 177 points 3 hours ago

he's from indy too right?

公牛球迷：康利是印第安纳人对吧？

[–]Pacers MCAsher 251 points 3 hours ago*

Originally from Arkansas but went to high school in Indiana.

步行者球迷：他出生在阿肯色州，不过在印第安纳上的高中。

[–]Pacers purduerocs15 21 points 3 hours ago

Not just played in Indiana, but played in Indy while winning three straight state championships. Of course with his teammate Greg Oden, but still nevertheless.

步行者球迷：他不光在印第安纳打过球，而且还连续三年赢得州冠军，当时的队友还有奥登。

[–]Raptors CarlESagan 240 points 3 hours ago

They both played in Oakland at some point, so they should both join the Warriors on vet minimums.

猛龙球迷：小加和康利都在奥克兰打过球的，所以他俩或许都会以老将底薪加盟勇士。

[–][MEM] Mike Conley AWPTeam6IsHere 57 points 3 hours ago

i wouldn't even be mad

灰熊球迷：那我甚至都不会生气。

[–]Raptors CarlESagan 114 points 3 hours ago

They need help. Their starting center only scored 22 points total all season. :(

猛龙球迷：勇士需要帮助啊。他们的首发中锋这个赛季一共才拿到22分呢

[–][OKC] Andre Roberson Superfobio 111 points 3 hours ago

It's really weird though. I want him to go to a place that needs a PG, but he doesn't really fit their timetables. He'd be fantastic in Orlando, but I just don't know if Issac and Bamba will be ready by the time he starts to fall off. He'd be a great fit next to Booker, but they still are missing so many pieces that I feel like there's a chance they miss the playoffs even with him next season.

I think the best team he could go to right now and have any kind of chance at making a run would be the Pistons. I just don't see how that trade gets done though. They're so asset-poor after the Blake trade that I don't know how it'd pan out.

Indiana could be a good fit too, but I don't know what their cap situation is looking like after the Myles extension. Could be a very expensive team.

雷霆球迷：不过真的很奇怪啊。我希望康利去一支需要控卫的球队，但他真的找不到合适的时间点。他去奥兰多的话应该会很好，可是我又不知道等到康利开始江河日下的时候，艾萨克和班巴是否能挑起大梁。他在德文-布克身边也很搭，不过太阳的建队拼图还差很多，我感觉哪怕下赛季他们得到康利，还是很有可能无缘季后赛。

我觉得他眼下的最佳去处应该是活塞，他们是有可能冲一波的。可是我又不知道这笔交易怎么促成。活塞在交易来格里芬之后也没什么好的交易资产了，所以我不知道这怎么搞。

步行者也很适合康利，不过在和迈尔斯续约之后，我不清楚他们的薪资状况咋样。康利去了话，那这队的球员薪水很高啊。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Dongsquad420BlazeIt 90 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, the timing is just so bad. Mike Conley is gonna end up forgotten. I wish he could be saved.

湖人球迷：是啊，时间点太差了。这样下去，康利最终会被大家遗忘的。我希望有人能拯救他。

[–]Pelicans AnotherStatsGuy 26 points 3 hours ago

I'd actually pick the Lakers to get him, but their whole plan is to sign big-name FAs, and most of their salary is locked up into LeBron. I'm not even sure you could find a legal trade that doesn't involve LBJ.

鹈鹕球迷：我倒觉得湖人可以引进他，不过他们的建队计划就是到自由市场上找大鱼，而且他们大部分的薪资都集中到勒布朗身上了。

[–]Spurs mrjowei 35 points 2 hours ago

You misspelled “Spurs”.

马刺球迷：你们这些人是把“马刺”两个字都拼错了吗

[–]Spurs ittozziloP 121 points 6 hours ago

Imagine being brothers and making the best league in the world and never getting to play together? He’s the perfect Spur

马刺球迷：你们想想看，两兄弟进入了同一个联盟，却没机会一起打球，这得多难受？小加索尔就该来我刺。

[–][LAL] Andrew Goudelock Dupragon 17 points 2 hours ago

Even as a Laker fan I agree, man's was made for y'all

湖人球迷：虽说我是个湖蜜，我也同意，小加索尔这种球员就是为你们马刺准备的。

[–]Kings Poptart2776 216 points 6 hours ago

Conley to either Utah or Indy, book it.

国王球迷：康利要么去犹他要么印第安纳，拭目以待吧。

[–]Jazzs rlehi68 310 points 6 hours ago

We’d be a legit contender to lose to the Warriors in the playoffs

爵士球迷：那样一来，我们真能成为在季后赛中输给勇士的有力竞争者。

[–]Raptors Sgatt 62 points 6 hours ago

Really wanna see Mike Conley on a playoff team in the East, I feel he would be a legit All-Star in this conference and would contribute on a number of teams.

The obvious fit would be Conley on the Pacers, but I also think he would play well with Blake/Drummond in Detroit if they can even come close to affording his contract/having the assets to make that trade

猛龙球迷：真想看到康利去一支东部季后赛球队，我觉得他在东部能成为全明星，可以在很多球队发挥作用。

明显适合康利的球队是步行者，不过我还觉得康利搭档格里芬或者庄神的话也会打得很好，前提是活塞能够负担他的薪水，而且有资本去促成这笔交易。

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[–]Nuggets swagboner420 77 points 6 hours ago

Good call on Memphis part if they don’t wanna be stuck in mediocrity in the near future

掘金球迷：要是孟菲斯不想以后几年都甘于平庸的话，那他们这个决定很及时啊

[–]testenth1 49 points 6 hours ago

I think it might be too late on Gasol though, he’s lost a lot of athleticism and hasn’t been near his old self

Conleys contract is bad but he still has positive value

不过我觉得对小加索尔来说或许太晚了，他已经丧失了很多运动能力，而且不是以前那个小加了。

康利的合同虽说是个负担，但他还是很有能力的。

[–]Grizzlies nickbrick23 33 points 6 hours ago

Gasol is still quite good, he's just been pissy for the last season and a half and doesn't really try anymore. The game against the Spurs earlier this year shows how good he can be but he just doesn't give a shit anymore. It's sad.

灰熊球迷：小加索尔还是很强的，只是最近这一个半赛季他很佛系，而且实际都不再发狠力了。这个赛季初我们对马刺的比赛就说明了他有多么地厉害，只是他现在啥都不在乎了。难受啊。

[–]basketbowls 23 points 6 hours ago

I’m a grizz fan, if I get drunk enough around 3am I’ll cry when we bring up the GnG era, but it’s time to do this. I hope we can trade Mike to the east and he can finally get into an all star game.. hopefully. wish it didn’t have to end like this but that’s sports

我是灰熊球迷，如果我在凌晨三点左右喝得酩酊大醉，当我们再提起黑又硬时代时，我会痛哭一场。可是现在是时候翻篇了。我希望球队能把康利送到东部，他能够进入全明星……但愿吧。我也不想看到这种局面，可这就是竞技体育。

[–]Lakers infraredam90s 412 points 6 hours ago

about time, they need to build around jaren jackson

湖人球迷：差不多是时候了，灰熊需要围绕小贾伦-杰克逊重建了。

[–]Raptors Broonskk 43 points 6 hours ago

I think they waited too long on Gasol in particular

猛龙球迷：我觉得灰熊在小加索尔身上等得太久了。

[–]Lakers 304rising 60 points 6 hours ago

I feel like the offers for these guys will be pretty anti climatic. Both pretty aging.

湖人球迷：我感觉对这两个人的报价应该不会很优厚。毕竟他俩都上年纪了。

[–]76ers boggles0087 41 points 6 hours ago

And not expiring on huge contracts.

76人球迷：而且大合同都还没到期。

[–][PHI] Robert Covington wafflekake 41 points 6 hours ago

Who wants ‘em? What are they worth? I have legitimately no idea

76人球迷：谁会想要他们呢？他们值什么价呢？我真不知道

[–]8MileAllstars 77 points 6 hours ago

Guarantee that the Pistons try to acquire Conley for something like Jackson/Leuer and a pick. Saves Memphis around $36 Million

我保证活塞会用杰克逊、琼-洛伊尔和一个选秀签去换康利。这可以给孟菲斯腾出3600万啊。

[–]Warriors Haejang-guk 58 points 6 hours ago

If they do it quickly enough that might save their season.

勇士球迷：如果活塞动作够快，那他们这个赛季或许还有救。

[–]Lakers vwang714 49 points 6 hours ago

Who tf wants conleys contract lol

湖人球迷：谁特么想要康利的合同呢，哈哈哈哈

[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard iPharoh 198 points 6 hours ago

Sure it’s a massive contract but Mike Conley is fkin good

猛龙球迷：康利的合同确实很大，不过他真特么厉害啊。

[–][GSW] Jarrett Jack GillbergsAdvocate 54 points 6 hours ago

He's better than he's given credit for

勇士球迷：康利比你我想的都要强。

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